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Jack13
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Post by Jack13 » 2006-05-19 09:30

GargoyleMT wrote:Yes, you keep breaking the policy against helping people infringing copyight. The last post by you that I remember talked about the downloading of anime and crc32 checking against a checksum in the filename.

Once we know or suspect that you're infringing copyright, I dectivate your account.
EDIT: I edited a bit so by "You", and "Your" I don't refer to just GargoyleMT, as I'm not sure witch mod. stands behind those actions - let's say it's a general term refering to Mod Team.

There are few things I would like to sort out then:

1) Well as far as I remember I didn't post ANY titles, I just said I was downloading anime series. I might be wrong but the fact that some series is licensed (thous copyright) and freely available in Your country doesn't mean it's the same all over the world. I can't just go to the shop around the corned and get fresh new DVD of some series, in fact my choice is still very limited in this field.

2) Let's go some other way - the fact I just said "anime series" does imply that it's copyrighted... So if I would like to download some movies from my family (or just some free to distribute stuff) I would be banned if I forget to add in my post that it's from my family? Or if I wrote that I have problem downloading files on my DC++ You would assume that those are probably some warez and ban me on sight? Maybe You should have wrote "Once we prophesy or know that you're infringing copyright..."

3) The words "keep breaking"... I don't remember anything like continuous action but just one post, that You suspect I was infringing copyright.

4) OK, let's just say that I was "helping people infringing copyight"... So I get punished by deactivation of forum account. I don't see word "accounts" and I don't know why my last account was deactivated (which of those 2 posts break any rule?). Wouldn't it be simpler to ban my (maybe not only my) IP or all my ISPs IP range?

Sure I can change IPs, emails (my prev. nick and email server is blacklisted already?) and all that stuff... but thats just not what civilized guys do. I wrote all this stuff because I don't feel guilty and I don't understand Your actions, but I would like to understand Your logic and adapt to Your rules (no matter how stupid they seem to me at this point) as I always try to do in any place.

BTW I would like to thank You for showing why I was baned because I wasn't sure... I just suspected that it could be "something like that".
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SubversiveAgent
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Post by SubversiveAgent » 2006-05-19 10:10

1) Well as far as I remember I didn't post ANY titles, I just said I was downloading anime series. I might be wrong but the fact that some series is licensed (thous copyright) and freely available in Your country doesn't mean it's the same all over the world. I can't just go to the shop around the corned and get fresh new DVD of some series, in fact my choice is still very limited in this field.
"I can't get manga in my country. Therefore I will break copyright laws and download it."

I'm sure the courts will be sympathetic to your case... :roll:

Piracy is piracy. Doesn't matter if you can't get the latest episodes of Lost in your little corner of Siberia, you're still breaking copyrights.
2) Let's go some other way - the fact I just said "anime series" does imply that it's copyrighted... So if I would like to download some movies from my family (or just some free to distribute stuff) I would be banned if I forget to add in my post that it's from my family? Or if I wrote that I have problem downloading files on my DC++ You would assume that those are probably some warez and ban me on sight? Maybe You should have wrote "Once we prophesy or know that you're infringing copyright..."
Your family does anime series? Dad draws, mom colours, sister translates into digital content? May we see some of your "homegrown manga" please?

If you want to get "family movies" then say "I have a hard time downloading other people's family movies, blah blah blah". Or just say movies. Be generic. There is no such thing as "Free anime movies". At least not that I know of.
3) The words "keep breaking"... I don't remember anything like continuous action but just one post, that You suspect I was infringing copyright.
That's one up to him, I'm the rogue not the copper :D
4) OK, let's just say that I was "helping people infringing copyight"... So I get punished by deactivation of forum account. I don't see word "accounts" and I don't know why my last account was deactivated (which of those 2 posts break any rule?). Wouldn't it be simpler to ban my (maybe not only my) IP or all my ISPs IP range?

Sure I can change IPs, emails (my prev. nick and email server is blacklisted already?) and all that stuff... but thats just not what civilized guys do. I wrote all this stuff because I don't feel guilty and I don't understand Your actions, but I would like to understand Your logic and adapt to Your rules (no matter how stupid they seem to me at this point) as I always try to do in any place.

BTW I would like to thank You for showing why I was baned because I wasn't sure... I just suspected that it could be "something like that".
"White man speak with forked tongue". Get whiter and you'll get no more bans.

And if you can't figure out what I'm talking about, here's a handy wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forked_tongue
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Post by Todi » 2006-05-19 11:07

Split these off, seemed a shame to throw the whole thread.

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Post by ullner » 2006-05-19 12:33

Is it just me, or is SubversiveAgent getting more annoying?

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Post by TheParanoidOne » 2006-05-19 13:13

It's not just you.
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Post by GargoyleMT » 2006-05-19 21:35

He's just going to keep coming back, I think. I kinda wanted some kind of public discussion just so he'd know what he had done wrong.

SubversiveAgent may be getting more confrontational, but now he's towing the party line (of us here), at least.

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